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this is the most popular segment of american tv. >> through the roof. >> what have we learned today? i'll take notes. >> i learned the reason why there is a line from 30 rock all the way practically to the east river is because "saturday night live" jennifer lawrence guest host, musical guests, luminares, i'm going on craigslist to try to get into that. >> i can help you out. >> okay. put me down for two. >> besides getting up way too early. >> right. totally not worth it. >> you're on at 3:00 this afternoon. >> yes "the cycle" 3:00 every day. i learned today though that between lance armstrong, manti teo and now subway there is now no one left to trust. >> really? what about the hosts of "the cycle?" >> it's over. >> what about the hosts? you can always trust -- >> nobody, nobody. >> i think you can trust her. >> i learned that the ceo of whole foods which we love for
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the roast chicken that keeps you alive is not worried about the fact that he called obama care facism, not worried about losing his base. that seems a little risky to me. >> and the lumineers are a good band. to my enormous sadness siree isn't real. >> way too early. >> morning joe but now stay tuned for a special episode of "the daily rundown" with chuck todd. >> thank you. the second time around. love is not lovelier. president obama and congress face a pessimistic nation. very negative on their ability to work together. we're going to break down the new numbers in our brand new poll this morning. congress had slightly better numbers back in the '70s when minnesota's rick nolan first got elected. then he took a hiatus for 30 years. now he's back with a lot to say about what's changed. he is sort of everything is old
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is new again in our meet the new members series. the white house unveils the president's official portrait for the next four years. wait until you get a closer look at the toll of the last four on him. good morning from washington. it's friday, january 18th, 2013. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. our final "daily rundown" of the obama first term. right to my first reads of the morning. if 2009 was all about hope, 2013 may be about the ability to cope. so says one of our pollsters. if it is possible americans have grown more pessimistic about their leaders in washington and, worse, they think those leaders are now hurting the economy. as president obama prepares to be sworn in for a second term our new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows a lagging economy and partisan battles are sa sapping the public confidence replacing the buoyant mood of four years ago with more
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pessimism now about the future of the country even as the economy slowly recovers. the president remains personally in a strong political position. his job approval rating is at a steady 52% about where it was last month and a higher rating than he has had through most of his first term. while the public likes the president personally a full 74% have responded and told us they like obama, he still hasn't won them over on his policies. and on his policy goals. the public is split. 49% disapproving of his overall policy goals. 47% approving. the president does get his best marks for being easy going and likeable having the ability to handle a crisis and understanding average people but he has low marks on changing business as usual in washington. working effectively with congress and sharing their positions on the issues. so looking ahead just 43% are optimistic about the next four years. 35% pessimistic. another 22% frankly just feeling
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mixed. we also ask people to describe where america is headed in a short word or phrase and just one-third used positive words like improving or right direction. nearly 60% used negative words, downhill, wrong track, the economy declining. overall just 35% tell us they believe the country is headed in the right direction. 57% say it is off on the wrong track. that right track number by the way is down six points from a month ago. the lowest it's been in five months. i think newtown and the fiscal cliff had something to do with that. 72% are dissatisfied with the economy today. just 27% are satisfied. that is specifically about their own economic prospects. 60% said the coming year will be a time to hold back and save because they believe harder times are ahead. only 34% said it will be a time of economic expansion and opportunity. and there is still widespread skepticism that obama can change that trajectory. just 36% said they are very or fairly confident about the president's ability to promote a strong economy.
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overall the protracted budget battles have taken a heavy toll on the economy. 51% say watching president obama and republicans in congress negotiate on the budget makes them less confident about the economy getting better. just 16% are more confident when they're negotiating. that is a consumer confidence issue, folks. if americans have tempered their expectations for obama's second term which quietly the white house likes, lower expectations, they have soured even more on congress and the republican party's brand. a pitiful 14% approve of the job congress is doing, near an all-time low or high if you will. 81% disapprove of their job. the personal ratings of all four congressional leaders are upside down or under water by double digits. house speaker john boehner's report card is especially bad. his personal rating upside down by 19 points. while the democratic party has a net positive rating the republican party's negative
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rating of 49% is basically at its -- near the all-time high. only one other time has it ever been higher. it is the all-time high during obama's presidency. just 26% see the party in a positive light. the gop has lost the most ground in this last poll with self-described republicans. the tea party by the way has its lowest rating ever if you will. positive views of the tea party have dropped to just 23%. as the democrats haggle about the best strategy now for pushing gun control measures through congress, vice president biden promised the u.s. conference of mayors on thursday that the white house will not let up. >> we're going to take this fight to the halls of congress, go around the country making our case, and let the voices of the american people be heard. >> but biden said he has no illusions about how hard that fight will be and emphasized the proposal, quote, isn't just about guns. our poll shows 56% do want
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stricter gun laws. 7% say gun laws today are too strict. 35% don't want any changes. 20 years ago the last time that real changes were debated, in gun laws, a full 2/3 of the country wanted stricter gun laws. this time the public appears to be looking at a complex set of reasons behind the string of mass shootings. we asked respondents to essentially tell us and they ended up ranking it but to tell us what they believe bears a great deal or good amount of responsibility for the spate of mass shootings. more people blamed lack of parental involvement with their own children. inadequate mental health treatment. even violent video games and violence in entertainment in our culture all before they talked about availability of assault weapons or high capacity clips. all for those recent gruesome shootings we've seen over the last five years. they are all seen as big contributors by the way. nobody is saying they're not. even the assault weapons ban. more folks said the first three
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were bigger contributors. biden himself spent less time yesterday talking about an assault weapons ban than he did pitching policies which have more of a chance of passing congress including background checks and a ban on the high capacity magazines. >> high capacity magazines don't have a practical sporting purpose. you got 12 rounds. it means you've already missed the deer 11 times. you should pack the sucker in at that point. you don't deserve to have a gun, period if you're that bad. >> to really understand though the complexities of the gun debate in america it is helpful to look at who owns guns. our poll showed that 41% of all households have a gun. in rural america that number is up to 61%. in urban america, 29%. big divide there. our poll also shows a dramatic political divide. 55% of republicans say they own a gun. just 27% of democrats do. 47% of households in the midwest and 46% in the south are gun
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owners but only 31% in the northeast. more whites we polled said they own guns. 47%. than nonwhites. and gun ownership was the highest, over 50% in the highest income households. 41% in our polls said they have a positive view of the nra. 34% a negative view. by comparison, hollywood and the entertainment industry has a net negative rating, 23/46. interestingly enough on the nra among gun owners the nra's positive rating is 62%. among nongun owners 25%. will the nra's numbers hold after their decision to run a web video invoking the president's daughters? we were in the field before they put that video up and that controversy sparked up but more attacks like this one from new jersey governor chris christie aren't likely to make the nra more popular. >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have not by their
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own choice but by requirement to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is reprehensible. you see that kind of ad and you cringe. you cringe. because it's just not appropriate. >> finally speaking of the nra on wednesday former obama spokesman robert gibbs said the obama campaign organization would be heard from again. >> the president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. it's time to turn that loose. >> right. >> it is time to turn that loose for something more than just an election, right? if the nra has a list that obama for america has a bigger list. >> that was more than foreshadowing. gibbs is involved in a new effort to use the obama campaign apparatus and brand to push his policy agenda. former campaign, obama campaign staffers led by campaign manager
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jim muhsina are launching organizing for action. the official rollout will be sunday at a d.c. event for obama staffers and volunteers called the obama legacy conference. this isn't the first time the obama campaign and democrats have tried to use this power of obama's campaign to lobby. it was first tried in 2009 when it was housed within the dnc organizing for action this time though will be set up outside as a 501 c 4 and we're told the group will have full disclosure of its donors and how much they give perhaps on a monthly basis but at least quarterly. setting it up as a 501 c 4 instead of a super pac we're told makes it legally easier to coordinate with the white house. but the obama folks are conceding a big point by doing this. whether they're going to ever say it or not that they can't do the things they want to do inside the structure of the democratic party. this version of ofa is successful. we're also told don't be surprised if this becomes obama's personal vehicle post presidency. think of it as sort of a
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precursor to that similar to president clinton's clinton global initiative. well, if it's friday, we'll get david gregory in here. can the white house leverage the what house apparatus to work in the second term? mr. gregory? good to see you. let's start with what they're doing here, what they promised to do in the first term. their big organization would be used. they still claim it was successful. they say you think health care was hard without ofa it would have been even harder, things like that. but to see what they're going to do and the first test is going to be guns. >> what is striking about the gun proposals is the president has basically thrown a long bomb here to use a football metaphor. saying look. these are things i believe in. now look. if the public rises up we'll get it done. it is based on public opinion. i think the problem with that is that he understands the political reality of an assault weapons ban and high capacity
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magazine ban being so difficult in the house and one of the things they have to do is win the argument on the merits. i mean, to say it's common sense, there are a lot of people who will agree on that but the reality is there are a lot of people who will not. and the idea that there are not definitive studies that show an assault weapons ban actually reduce crime is an issue. >> look at our poll and there were certainly a majority that thought availability of assault weapons was an impact but they thought other things had bigger impacts. right. >> in these mass shootings. he didn't address, talk about the parental issues and things. we got the inaugural coming up. big look at the second term. we asked in our poll, give us a word or phrase to this advice to president obama and congress. what do you want? what is the message you'd like to send to president obama? number one fix the economy, create jobs. first two were that and the message to congress was almost unanimous. compromise together. >> yes. >> so we know where the public is. >> right. the public wants results and they want results in their jobs, in their lives.
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they want the government just to work better. and i think that is the big disconnect right now with washington because, you know, republicans are wondering how much leverage they have to force the president to deal with spending, for instance. do they sort of wait him out and hope for a positive result in 2014 and use whatever leverage over the del ceiling or whatever else but the public finds it so distasteful. the president too on issues like entitlement, i think it's really striking, will he seek to rise above how difficult it is that he doesn't feel he's got a negotiating partner to try to get something done on entitlements? if he wants robust economic growth he'll have to. we will have a debate over guns and the debt between ted cruz, fresh face, tea party face from texas. >> old school/new school. >> and chuck schumer from new york and our political roundtable as well where we'll look at the big challenges. >> in urban america is one place
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on guns and rural america and the south another. >> see you sunday. >> thanks chuck. we'll have much more from our brand new poll coming up. plus we have a twist on our meet the new member series to finish up the week on. we'll introduce you to the guy who left congress 30 years ago and now is back for more. what is old is new again. we'll talk to congressman rick nolan about why he is back and what he hopes to accomplish this time around. but first look ahead at the president's schedule. kind of a quiet day. we're in full inaugural mode, folks, starting tomorrow. tomorrow a national day of service as the capitol gets ready for the big celebration. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone but her likes 50% more cash, but i have an idea. do you want a princess dress? yes. cupcakes? yes. do you want an etch-a-sketch? yes! do you want 50% more cash?
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well, everything old is new again. you know that saying. minnesota democratic congressman rick nolan is starting his fourth term in the house more than 30 years after completing his third. nolan was first elected to congress in 1974. re-elected twice before leaving in 1981. look at it this way. the last time nolan cast a vote gas cost a buck 25. walter cronkite was still on the air. ronald reagan was yet to be sworn in and people still made mixed tapes. little did we know, did he know that 31 years later he'd be fighting with the tea party republican over his time in washington. >> remember the '70s? disco was king and rick nolan was in congress raising his own pay while attacking medicare. >> with four terms of seniority i'm able to hit the ground running and be in a position to really step up and make a difference.
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>> voters agreed and nolan coasted to a victory thanks in part fora late october visit by former president clinton. he isn't the same man. the 69-year-old democrat spent years promoting export and trade in minnesota, was ceo of the minnesota world trade center corporation. he's been married for nearly 30 years, raised four kids, and has ten grand kids. he's even done his share of globe trotting. at one point living in the middle east for four years. joining me now is a new congressman, who is an old congressman, rick nolan. good morning to you. >> good morning. delighted to be here. >> congressman, in our first conversation that we had a few weeks ago you were talking about -- we were talking about what's changed, what are the biggest changes you've noticed from working in congress 30 years ago to today and what struck me is you talked about simply the work week. walk me through it. >> well, you know, first of all
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a couple things. some of my friends have called me rick van winkle. it seemed i was working in the congress and laid down and took a nap and i woke up 32 years later. here i am. and, you know, the good news is some things remain the same. there are a lot of very bright, able, capable people here to do the right thing, make a difference both democrats and republicans. that is the good news. you know, the bad news is what you just referred to. and that is the committees and the congress doesn't meet enough. not like we did when i served before. in fact i did a little study. my first term we worked 48 out of 52 weeks. we're scheduled now to work -- >> let me stop you there. when you say work it means you were in washington, d.c. meeting official business. congress was in session, right? >> that's correct. and most of those days were four and five-day weeks. we were in committee virtually every morning. we were on the -- in the floor
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of the house throughout the afternoons and the evenings. and we were working in the process of governing which is what we're elected to do. now this congress is scheduled to work 34 out of 52 weeks and most of those days are not real days, chuck. we went into session monday for example. we don't have any votes scheduled until 6:30 in the evening. we were also scheduled to work on tuesday which we did. then we were scheduled to work on wednesday and we took the day off. so we're not putting in anywhere near the time governing. unless you hear the expression around the country everybody's campaigning and nobody is governing. and it's literally true. at least to the extent that we're not governing as much as we should. given all of the great issues that the country is facing. >> right. >> sequestration and budget deficits and all of the rest.
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>> now, these decisions by loips of both parties over the years of who has been running it to shorten the weeks, it's all been about, well, it gives you time to go home, to be in touch with your constituents. that is the feeling. do you think it is too much time being given to campaigning? that is your argument? >> well, that is the rationale. that is what the public is told. the fact is money has become toxic in politics. that is the other big change. i mean, we're told here two things. one is the one with the most money gets the most votes and, number two, you should be spending 30 hours a week in fund raising and call time dialing for dollars. >> let me stop you there. you're told to spend -- this is on your side they want you to spend 30 hours a week making phone calls for raising money? >> yes. for money. and, you know, i'm not going to do that. i haven't done that.
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i'm here to govern. but the fact is my last election contest years ago i think i spent like $250,000. the total amount of money in my election contest this year was well over $20 million, you know, back when i was here before that's more than was spent in the presidential contest. we need to change the way we do politics. we need to take money out of politics and congress needs to go back to work governing. >> rick nolan, some amazing numbers. $250,000 in your last race. 20 million when you factor in the outside groups in this race. some stunning numbers there in those work week numbers. thanks for coming on. it's been nice to meet you. we'll see you, i'm sure, again soon. >> thank you. >> all right. check out our website. rundown.msnbc.com. we're putting our whole series of interviews with these new members, meeting the new members of congress, up there now. you'll see them all. we'll continue this for the next few weeks.
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there are a lot of new members to get to know. trust me. next the latest on the international hostage crisis still unfolding at this hour in algeria. the effort to free the americans and others still in danger. but first, before we go to break today's trivia question. how many times has the winning super bowl team hailed from the same state as the president during his inauguration year? i swear i didn't come up with this one. tweet your answer at chuck todd at daily rundown. first correct answer gets a follow friday from us. the answer and more coming up. i'm intrigued. time for the your business entrepreneur of the week. kathleen king had a successful bakery business in the hamptons but a partnership that went sour resulted in her losing it, left with a store front and recipe she started tate's. she now makes more than 2 million cookies a week with over $10 million in sales. for more watch your business sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. [ female announcer ] born from the sweet monk fruit,
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650 hostages had been freed. including around 75 foreign civilians. another 60 foreign hostages are unaccounted for. militants say two are americans. they're offering to free them in exchange for two terror suspects in the u.s. including, ready for this, the blind sheik jailed since the mid '90s for the first world trade center bombing and a u.s. medevac has landed. >> we are working around the clock to ensure the safe return of our citizens and we will continue to be in close consultation with the algerian government. >> in an interview with oprah wintry lance armstrong admitted he used banned drugs or blood transfusions during all seven
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tour de france victories. armstrong denied allegations for over a decade of course and didn't come clean until now. oprah asked him why he waited so long. >> for 13 years you didn't just deny it. you brazenly and defiantly denied everything you just admitted. so why now admit it? >> that is the best question. the most logical question. i don't know that i have a great answer. i would start my answer by saying, this is too late. it's too late for probably most people. and that's my fault. >> by the way, though, he still denied doping for the 2009 and 2010 tour de france including the one he finished in third place. up next a deep dive ninto our nw national poll.
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the message voters have for the president and congress. plus, second chances. president clinton called on the country to embrace the new spirit of community for a new century. president bush vowed to spread freedom to the darkest corners of the world. what should president obama say the second time around? and a programming note for you. i'll be anchoring msnbc's live coverage of the official swearing in just before noon on sunday. inauguration of course will happen on monday. my doctor told me calcium
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back to our poll now and the deepest of deep dives into how the country sees its leaders in washington on the eve of the president's second inaugural. when asked where the country is headed over the next year there was a clear difference of opinion. downhill or wrong track was the top answer. but about one in five americans said things are improving. hopeful and was the next most popular answer. the message people wanted to
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send to the president create more jobs, stop spending, fix the economy. the next most common answer compromise. when we asked for a message people wanted to send to congress one in three americans said they wanted lawmakers to work together. the top response, by far. we didn't prompt them mind you. they also wanted congress to get to work, represent constituents, fix the economy, and stop spending. overall americans are frustrated and growing more pessimistic about their leadership in washington. a tough situation for president obama. if you put our numbers in context you'll see the situation is very similar to the one president bush faced at the start of his second term in 2005. let's bring in the team who conducted this poll, democratic pollster peter hart and republican pollster mcinturf. bill, i'll start with you, because you wanted to add this one question about the -- about
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essentially how washington affects consumer confidence. >> exactly. >> this issue. it seems to be the pall that hangs over the entire poll. >> a majority of americans told us they are less confident because of president obama and republicans and the way they are negotiating the budget. that reflects the michigan consumer sentiment which dropped dramatically during the fiscal cliff. washington is helping kind of kill consumer confidence because people are saying -- >> washington is hurting the economy. >> washington is hurting the economy. i absolutely believe that is true. because people are saying hey those are the grown-ups and that's what's happening. who is in charge? and it's killing -- every time we get a little better, 2011, the debt ceiling, and today, washington keeps making it worse. >> peter hart, there is also another aspect where the president stands right now and we wanted to put it in historical terms. this is the third straight two-term presidency so the third straight second inaugural we'll have if you will. >> right. >> it is similarities between obama and bush.
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this has been 2004 and 2012. very similar elections. they're in the same standing. where is the direction of the country, under clinton 46%. 40%. 35%. wrong track, though. clinton 38%. so he was a net positive. both bush and obama facing a net negative. when you see these numbers and you're in the middle of writing your second inaugural you have to take that into account when speaking to the public don't you? >> absolutely. and part of it is it's going from a position of hope to the ability to cope. and that's where the public is at. they recognize these are indeed difficult times and what is important is the ability to bring the public along. one thing you have to remember is the second term gets defined by the first major action. obviously for president clinton it was monica lewinsky. obviously for president bush it was katrina. the ability to be able to --
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>> can a second term be defined by a positive? >> it can but it's been a long time since we've seen a positive define a second term. you can go back to reagan's second term. >> some people say iran contra and that was a negative. >> that's what i was saying. it is a long time. and my point being, you've got to be able to bring the public in and it's a very polarized time and bill and i both agree on that. >> you know, it is interesting where the republican party's standing is right now. on the one hand it is a mirror image of where the republican party was january, 2009 except this time you could explain it away, well the democrats are on a high. they're on a sugar high. we're just -- we need some sugar here if you're the republican. that is not the explanation this time. >> i think we have now a cumulative impact for the republican party. unfortunately republicans dropped for their own party. >> that was remarkable by the
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way. >> well. >> that drop. that is what really pushed that negative number even higher. it was republicans moving in that direction. >> yeah. i think that we need to understand from the other work we do my sense is that you have to remember is it is not because they were upset -- they're upset the republicans in congress had not done more to stop the president's agenda. >> right. they're negative for a different reason. >> they are very different reasons. it is a signal, actually, that what we're going to see ahead of the next two or three months despite the country saying we want to work together and compromise we might i think probably arguably we'll see just the opposite in the next 90 days. >> all right. >> that is the problem for the republicans and essentially they're at odds with one another and fred yang pointed that out yesterday in the report. >> he did. on one hand they've got to keep their coalition together. on the other hand they're not going to win swing voters doing this. i have to ask you about guns. the 41% number household. i can't tell you how many colleagues came up to me and said that is too low. i think people lie. i don't think everybody tells
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you they own a gun in a household. peter hart, you've been doing this for a very long time. do you buy that? do you buy that number is actually too low? >> i honestly don't because i think we've been measuring it. sure there are some people i'm sure that don't admit to a lot of different things. >> and guns would be a big thing. >> what if somebody is standing in the room while you're on the phone? >> i understand. but we've done this enough years that we know at least where the trend is. >> sure. >> and where things have changed. and maybe the absolute number is a little higher. but what it is, is a huge number at 41%. we've been measuring that for several years. >> more importantly as you've pointed out , bill, boy, it loos like the gerrymandered house of representatives to be honest where republicans live is where guns are owned. where democrats live is where they're not owned. >> i think that is true and i think it is another reminder one key difference in the data is
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55% of republicans say they own guns compared to 27% of democrats. and what it means for the president is at a time when he is doing this incredibly large policy initiative on guns, it is actually incredibly consistent with how his own core political base sees this issue. and so he is actually in a way totally kind of locked in with his own base. it's okay for the president. what he is doing though for all of those men and women running for u.s. senate seats in those red states, this is a very, very difficult issue to negotiate. >> we have a lot of stuff on this poll. there is more we'll get to next week, important numbers on other social issues. immigration for the first time we have a majority favoring a path to citizenship for those folks that are not here legally but, boy. when you look at it by party still a long way to go to put together a political coalition because when it comes to independents and republicans staying negative. >> very difficult but at the same time moving in one direction. and the republicans have a
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challenge ahead of them. that is how did they deal with all of the states where there is immigration and they lost it in 2012 unless they get on the right side of this. i think marco rubio is trying to present that side of it. i think the republicans are going to figure out a way to compromise. i just don't think they can afford to be out on the wing and against it and they're going to have to figure that out. here and on guns. >> explains why marco rubio has been on conservative media all week trying to sell it. >> we did a question just for legal or not legal. there has to be a lot of stuff in place. border security and a lot of other things in place before you get to the legal citizenship question. >> a lot to this poll. like i said, we're spacing it out. we have different questions we're releasing next week on fascinating social movements on some big social issues we've been tracking over the years. thank you both. >> thank you, chuck. >> the gaggle will be here next
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found it firm. >> let's bring in our friday gaggle michelle bernard from the bernard center for women, politics, and public policy. amy walter the naleid itor for the political report and ruth marcus of "the washington post." ruth, the second inaugurals. it is interesting when you heard the snippets from reagan, clinton, bush, they were trying to get the message they believe the voters sent them for why they're there into their inaugural. >> that's right. >> president obama has two messages to pick from. one is hey you're there to make, go make washington work but you're also there to protect the middle class. that is the two messages. which is in the inaugural or are both? >> well, i think if i were president obama i might go more for message number two because message number one we kind of tried that and we might have a little bit of cynicism about it. you don't have to choose between messages as our former president
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clinton might say a false choice. so he'll talk a little bit about trying to overcome divisions, that is sort of the classic rhetoric of inaugurals first and second. but i think we'll hear a lot of middle class and a lot of being a little specific about some of the challenges he sees ahead, not just protecting the middle class and dealing with -- but talking about a little income inequality. a little bit of climate change. >> sure. >> a little bit of cost. >> you think it is going to be that -- it is funny. what do you think? i say this. he's got a sense of history. he knows inaugurals we'll all look back on. he has a state of the union he can start ticking off -- >> i'm not talking about exact planks but i think there will be broad things. >> amy where are you? >> i'm at the ladder with you which is let's forget the hope and change and change this city because we've all realize thad is never going to happen. at the same time he had two messages i think from the campaign beyond just we're going
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to help the middle class. it is we are stuck in a ditch. my job in the first term was to get us out of the ditch. now my job is to get the car back on the road and we'll go forward economically. that is the toughest part i think for him because to make the case to voters which he has been making during the campaign. >> right. >> if you elect me i'm going to keep this country moving ahead, moving forward. and how are we going to get economic growth at a time when we know not only is washington broken but there are no suggestions that congress is ready to help. >> this is the frustration. the message we asked voters to send, the number one message, fix the economy. but also we know that washington hurts the economy as far as the public is concerned. >> exactly. that is why i have to be a little contrarian here in what i think we need to hear from the president's inauguration speech. i think that outside of washington there is a large part of the country that still craves hope and change and wants to hear that out of many we ar nation of one. i think he's got to start with very positive messaging and in a positive way take it from what makes us great as a nation is
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our sense of community and from there go on to talk about what he is going to do to create jobs. what he is going to do about the education system so all americans are prepared for a 21st century work force. talk to us about foreign policy, democracy in the middle east. i think we want to hear it all. >> so your message, he wants us to say, hey. you're naive. >> yes. >> that was a naive speech. >> yes. >> i agree. >> i don't think he cares what we say. >> that's right. >> but i think he cares what others think and i think he needs to be able to project that message of hope to voters without them tuning out and saying, yeah. yada, yada. i've heard that. don't remind me. >> pragmatic. >> in fact we could take the hope stickers from the last election and just add pragmatic on to that. >> pragmatic hope. >> i think that would be it. >> all right. stick around. i want to talk a little about what the democratic party is up to and what obama for america or
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whatever we are supposed to call it now organizing for action. trivia we asked how many times has the winning super bowl team hailed from the same state as the president during his inauguration year? all right. the answer is three. i only got two. here is missed, nixon was inaugurated in 1969. and the new york jets won the super bowl. yes, richard nixon was a new yorker when he won and california teams won both years that reagan was inaugurated. the oakland raiders in '81 and the 49ers in '85. if you've got a trivia question, e-mail us. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money.
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so the white house just unveiled the new official presidential portrait. it shows a smiling president barack obama standing in the oval office. but when you look at some of the
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pictures of the past, you can see how the weight of the white house changes the age of a president and ages a president. that was the "washington post." they have a look at the toll the job has taken on the president over the last four years. let's bring back the gaggle. not surprising. >> no. >> frankly, that we know the white house, michelle, that presidency ages everybody. >> absolutely. and given how it ages everyone, i have to say, he actually still looks really good. he looks great. >> both bush and clinton, they had more gray hair to show. >> i'm glad they don't do this for us and to show how we have -- >> yes. >> it does not quite as good as the president. >> we're all going to see the first woman president some day -- >> that's going to be awful. it's harder on women the way we beat them up over looks. very quickly, organizing for action, amy walter, the second opportunity the obama campaign has tried to figure out what do they do with this list?
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>> isn't it interesting? because it is that list that elected the president. and at the same time -- >> and reelected him. >> and reelected him. but these are not the people that have any influence at all on the folks in congress because they are the exact opposite people of who sends them back to congress. so if ofa or whatever we're going to call this, we're going to be effective, it would actually be to try to figure out the constituencies of the republicans, how to really work with them, of course. >> ruth, i'm a skeptic. they tried. they say ofa within the confines of the democratic party did work four years ago. we just -- they say, hey, health care wouldn't have passed without it. democrats would've run for the hills. that's their argument. maybe so. >> you just said the magic words within the confines of the democratic party. amy's exactly right. we need organizing for reality. >> yes. >> which is republican congress. >> pragmatic hope. there it is. well, anyway, shameless plug time. they're playing the music. >> i'm going to wish a happy
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belated birthday to my god daughter and congratulate her on being accepted into college. >> i'm making a shameless plug for the political report. >> i don't deal with brand x. >> right. >> it's very -- thank you very much. >> welcome back, by the way. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> she doesn't need a shameless plug, but justice sotomayor has written a book "shameless plug." i wrote a column about it, and it's a fascinating insight into her life, readable. >> okay. readable. look at that. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." >> it's watchable. >> i'll be back here on sunday for msnbc's coverage of the actual swearing in. president obama's official oath of office and msnbc, of course, all day coverage on monday of the president's second inaugural coming up next, chris jansing, have a good weekend. give a couple beginners a great idea, and they won't be beginners for long. they'll go to where they can get the skills, the savings,
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